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	<title>Comments on: Frustrating funeral.</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
		<link>http://www.pragmatik.org/blog/2008/04/frustrating-funeral/#comment-23882</link>
		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 06:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started to write a comment, but got sidetracked with the story of my father's death which I posted on my blog instead of here.

I'm sorry for your loss. There's nothing stupid about the recognition that you've got good people in your life in a time of tragedy.  That's part of what makes us human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started to write a comment, but got sidetracked with the story of my father&#8217;s death which I posted on my blog instead of here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry for your loss. There&#8217;s nothing stupid about the recognition that you&#8217;ve got good people in your life in a time of tragedy.  That&#8217;s part of what makes us human.</p>
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		<title>By: The day dad died &#171; . : s t e a d y . org : .</title>
		<link>http://www.pragmatik.org/blog/2008/04/frustrating-funeral/#comment-23881</link>
		<dc:creator>The day dad died &#171; . : s t e a d y . org : .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 06:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in steadylife   This started as a comment for Johnny&#8217;s blog at (http://www.pragmatik.org/blog/2008/04/frustrating-funeral/trackback/) but then I realized this was really a story that needed to be told on steady.org&#8230;Sorry [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in steadylife   This started as a comment for Johnny&#8217;s blog at (http://www.pragmatik.org/blog/2008/04/frustrating-funeral/trackback/) but then I realized this was really a story that needed to be told on steady.org&#8230;Sorry [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.pragmatik.org/blog/2008/04/frustrating-funeral/#comment-23813</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your kind words and thoughtful response.  

This pastor was Episcopal.  My father was raised in that religion but then converted to Catholicism when I was young because, well, he got left out at church all the time because my parents had to agree to raise us Catholic after they were married, because they had to get permission.  All because my father belonged to a faith that is almost Catholic, but not quite.  He could not receive communion, and I think he wanted to be there for his boys.  So he went through two years of classes just to be be able to do something from which there was no real reason for him to be excluded in the first place.  I mean, when I made my first communion in second grade, I don't think I understood transubstantiation.

I don't know how I feel about the Catholic Church anymore.  In some ways, I miss the celebrations and holidays.  I miss the music the Friars would sing and being in the folk group.  But if I sit back and reflect on what I actually believe, my head spins. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your kind words and thoughtful response.  </p>
<p>This pastor was Episcopal.  My father was raised in that religion but then converted to Catholicism when I was young because, well, he got left out at church all the time because my parents had to agree to raise us Catholic after they were married, because they had to get permission.  All because my father belonged to a faith that is almost Catholic, but not quite.  He could not receive communion, and I think he wanted to be there for his boys.  So he went through two years of classes just to be be able to do something from which there was no real reason for him to be excluded in the first place.  I mean, when I made my first communion in second grade, I don&#8217;t think I understood transubstantiation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how I feel about the Catholic Church anymore.  In some ways, I miss the celebrations and holidays.  I miss the music the Friars would sing and being in the folk group.  But if I sit back and reflect on what I actually believe, my head spins. :)</p>
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		<title>By: makandapanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>makandapanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a sad, captivating story. I reread it several times, actually. And, I will have a friend read it when she gets here soon. First, let me say I am sorry to hear about your grandfather's passing. Sounds like he was a good guy.
I don't know how your religion goes, but I like to believe people like your grandpa and mine live on in us now, or something like that. Afterall, life is energy, which does not die. Blah, blah, blah. 

I don't want to push anything on anyone, but I will say, religion is the fundamental reason for nearly all wars throughout our collective history. 

I cannot speak for others, but, as a confirmed former-member of the Catholic church, I find the constant hypocracy impossible to ignore. 
My memories of Sunday church include overhearing women critiquing other congregation members' finest attire, and divulging suspected, or confirmed affairs being carried out by other parishoners--the parents of my classmates. The glint in their eye was easy to recognize, even as a child. 

Forgiveness and mercy have no place in the Catholic church. Neither does consideration or toleration of anything of anyone considered different.
I could go on like this forever, but I believe my point has been made. I do not want to spark a controversy here on your blog page.
I am inspired by you for taking the high road, and not laying into those stupid hillbillies at the funeral. I would have gone nuts on that lady who stood behind you. And the incredibly incosnsiderate priest, who will never touch as many people as you will! A child would have shown greater respect than these idiots! I will toast my wine, here, to the fact that you will (hopefully) never have to see them, or any of the Pig's ridiculous family, ever again!
Remember the good things about your Pop, and forget those silly losers!

Have a nice day &#38; good luck to you, Johnny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a sad, captivating story. I reread it several times, actually. And, I will have a friend read it when she gets here soon. First, let me say I am sorry to hear about your grandfather&#8217;s passing. Sounds like he was a good guy.<br />
I don&#8217;t know how your religion goes, but I like to believe people like your grandpa and mine live on in us now, or something like that. Afterall, life is energy, which does not die. Blah, blah, blah. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to push anything on anyone, but I will say, religion is the fundamental reason for nearly all wars throughout our collective history. </p>
<p>I cannot speak for others, but, as a confirmed former-member of the Catholic church, I find the constant hypocracy impossible to ignore.<br />
My memories of Sunday church include overhearing women critiquing other congregation members&#8217; finest attire, and divulging suspected, or confirmed affairs being carried out by other parishoners&#8211;the parents of my classmates. The glint in their eye was easy to recognize, even as a child. </p>
<p>Forgiveness and mercy have no place in the Catholic church. Neither does consideration or toleration of anything of anyone considered different.<br />
I could go on like this forever, but I believe my point has been made. I do not want to spark a controversy here on your blog page.<br />
I am inspired by you for taking the high road, and not laying into those stupid hillbillies at the funeral. I would have gone nuts on that lady who stood behind you. And the incredibly incosnsiderate priest, who will never touch as many people as you will! A child would have shown greater respect than these idiots! I will toast my wine, here, to the fact that you will (hopefully) never have to see them, or any of the Pig&#8217;s ridiculous family, ever again!<br />
Remember the good things about your Pop, and forget those silly losers!</p>
<p>Have a nice day &amp; good luck to you, Johnny!</p>
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