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	<title>Comments on: Why can&#8217;t hating assholes keep it to themselves?</title>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.pragmatik.org/blog/2009/11/why-cant-hating-assholes-keep-it-to-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-50268</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify: 
I realize what this amounts to is that people are afraid and want to legislate their religion.  And, no, that is not Okay.  That is my point.  The Taliban legislated religion, and we should really want to emulate them, huh?
What religion would we legislate anyway?  Baptist?  Catholic?  
There&#039;s no such thing as a &quot;Christian&quot; consensus.  I mean, if you&#039;re going to legislate &lt;em&gt;the excluding part of a religion&lt;/em&gt;, balls up and legislate the whole thing.  
What do we do about Communion?  The role of human reason?  Is reason the tool of the Devil?  Or, as in the Catholic Church, is reason a gift directly from God that helps us to understand our faith more?  What about reconciliation?  Divorce?  The nature of Jesus?  
Free will?  Christian faiths don&#039;t agree on free will.  Without free will, you can&#039;t have crime, etc.  How can someone claim that gay people are bad for &quot;choosing&quot; to be that way when so many &quot;Christian&quot; faiths (with the notable exception of the Roman Catholic Church) truly and actually hold that there is no free will?  Under the philosophy of Martin Luther, the man who started the Protestant movement, there is no free will; so no one chooses to be gay.  And Catholics (look this up) don&#039;t consider being gay a sin (score one for them).  You just can&#039;t ever ever ever express your love physically (boo!).
(This is beside the fact that I don&#039;t think people choose their gender identity or sexual orientation any more than I chose what color my eyes are.)
But, because two people asked me, I know that this boils down to the legislation of religion.  I should have mentioned it more explicitly, but it&#039;s obviously what I was getting at.
And, no, I am not an &quot;idiot&quot; for &lt;em&gt;thinking&lt;/em&gt; the way I do.  Considering how little &lt;em&gt;thinking&lt;/em&gt; is going on lately, I think I&#039;m the exact opposite of an idiot, thank you very much.
I love all of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify:<br />
I realize what this amounts to is that people are afraid and want to legislate their religion.  And, no, that is not Okay.  That is my point.  The Taliban legislated religion, and we should really want to emulate them, huh?<br />
What religion would we legislate anyway?  Baptist?  Catholic?<br />
There&#8217;s no such thing as a &#8220;Christian&#8221; consensus.  I mean, if you&#8217;re going to legislate <em>the excluding part of a religion</em>, balls up and legislate the whole thing.<br />
What do we do about Communion?  The role of human reason?  Is reason the tool of the Devil?  Or, as in the Catholic Church, is reason a gift directly from God that helps us to understand our faith more?  What about reconciliation?  Divorce?  The nature of Jesus?<br />
Free will?  Christian faiths don&#8217;t agree on free will.  Without free will, you can&#8217;t have crime, etc.  How can someone claim that gay people are bad for &#8220;choosing&#8221; to be that way when so many &#8220;Christian&#8221; faiths (with the notable exception of the Roman Catholic Church) truly and actually hold that there is no free will?  Under the philosophy of Martin Luther, the man who started the Protestant movement, there is no free will; so no one chooses to be gay.  And Catholics (look this up) don&#8217;t consider being gay a sin (score one for them).  You just can&#8217;t ever ever ever express your love physically (boo!).<br />
(This is beside the fact that I don&#8217;t think people choose their gender identity or sexual orientation any more than I chose what color my eyes are.)<br />
But, because two people asked me, I know that this boils down to the legislation of religion.  I should have mentioned it more explicitly, but it&#8217;s obviously what I was getting at.<br />
And, no, I am not an &#8220;idiot&#8221; for <em>thinking</em> the way I do.  Considering how little <em>thinking</em> is going on lately, I think I&#8217;m the exact opposite of an idiot, thank you very much.<br />
I love all of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.pragmatik.org/blog/2009/11/why-cant-hating-assholes-keep-it-to-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-50265</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Damien. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Damien. :)</p>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
		<link>http://www.pragmatik.org/blog/2009/11/why-cant-hating-assholes-keep-it-to-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-50200</link>
		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave today. It is astounding to me that evangelicals, Roman Catholic and Orthodox Christian leaders would &lt;em&gt;dare&lt;/em&gt; to invoke Dr. King&#039;s name in defense of their policies of ignorance and hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave today. It is astounding to me that evangelicals, Roman Catholic and Orthodox Christian leaders would <em>dare</em> to invoke Dr. King&#8217;s name in defense of their policies of ignorance and hate.</p>
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